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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 16 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 82

Today's Topics:

      [*] Open Prolog
      [*] Quran in Arabic with English translations
      [*] Quran in Arabic with English translations (segment 2)
      (R) DAs and MultiFinder
      24-Bit Color Card Recommendations (Q)
      32k colors on LCIII (A)
      44mb Cartridges Speed on SyQuest 88c Drives (A)
      About a Modem (Racal Vadic VA212)(R)
      A comment about Info-Mac (R)
      Adding 2nd internal drive to IIsi; can it be done? (A)
      After Conflict Checker DEMO, ...
      aliases (A)
      Apple UK in a mess again...
      AutoDoubler vs. Desktop [Q]
      CENTRIS 650 - Any Problems?
      Check your facts, please!
      Computer insurance (C)
      download formats (inc .image)
      Floppy disk characteristics
      Hard Drive Hero and Villain
      Have you ever seen a skull on your monitor? (C)
      Help the Listserver. . .
      Help with Canon Digital Camera (Q)
      Hex Editor
      How to read files with cpt suffix
      IIci Maximum RAM
      IIci vs. LCIII or Palatino is not Palatino (A)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #81
      Installer script editor
      Insurance & software...
      It's a daft old Word
      LC III or Centris 610 for math related... (R)
      localtalk vs. ethertalk
      Mac ASCII to Latin1?
      MiniCAD+4 .vs. PowerDraw
      Need Monitor Recommendation
      Please Help!
      Plotting and Graphing Software for Windows/Mac (A)
      Q:Super Laser Spool
      QuickTime shareware wishlist
      Radius video board and NEC monitors
      Random StartupScreen (Q)
      Resource Detective Needed (A)
      Starting up from external drive
      Symbol Bold (A)
      Upgraders from Deneba
      V [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines (R)
      Vertical Centris 610
      Weird OzTeX behavior...
      where is Ehman Engineering?
      Where to get 6.08L (Q)

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Date: Aoi 16 Aib 1993 1:29 pm
From: Michael Brady <Michael.Brady@ashe.cs.tcd.ie>
Subject: [*] Open Prolog

Open Prolog is an Prolog interpreter.

It supports most standard Edinburgh syntax and built-in predicates, including
Definite Clause Grammars. It has garbage collection and first argument
indexing.
Open Prolog runs on any Macintosh from a Mac Plus upwards (System 6.0 and 1MB
RAM minimum), and is 32-bit clean. It's reasonably fast, around 50KLips on a
Quadra 950.

Mike Brady
brady@cs.tcd.ie

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 12:07:01 PDT
From: M J Sawar <sawar@cbl.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] Quran in Arabic with English translations

Dear friends,

	I have acquired the Arabic text and the translations (M. Pickthal, Y
	Ali) of
Quran from the Islamic Computing Center, London. I have been able to convert
them
to Macintosh format, so that the Arabic can be read along with the translation
(under System 7.xx, with Arabic resources). I am only submitting the Arabic
text
of Quran and the combined version which has Arabic verses with their
translations by
M. Pickthal and A. Y. Ali. If you require the translations only, please let me
know.

	These file were made freely available to me by the Islamic Computing
	Centre,
{ 73 St. Thomas's Road, London N4 2QJ U.K. Tel:(071) 359 6233 ; Fax:(071) 226
2024 }
to be ported to the Macintosh operating system and distribute free of charge.
The
files are not in Public domain, and the copy rights of the files still remain
with
The Islamic Computing Centre. It is not permitted to distribute the file for
commercial
(or Profit) purposes. A commercial product for the PCs (and soon for the Macs)
with
searching facilities is already available from the Islamic Computing Centre.


Mohammad Jamil Sawar
sawar@cbl.leeds.ac.uk
CBLU, Leeds University, Leeds LS2 9JT, UK.


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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 18:09:03 BST
From: M J Sawar <sawar@cbl.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] Quran in Arabic with English translations (segment 2)

M. J. Sawar

sawar@cbl.leeds.ac.uk

Self archiving file from Compact Pro
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Date: 15 Apr 1993 20:31:18 -0600 (CST)
From: MRSMA@jazz.ucc.uno.edu
Subject: (R) DAs and MultiFinder

greetings:
recently i inquired about DA's not working with MultiFinder.
yes, i overlooked the FAQ that one needs "DA Handler" in the
System Folder. my apologies to the community at large...
many thanx to all KIND respondents.
sincerely,
m.r. schaferkotter
mrsma@uno

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 09:03 PST
From: Charles G Williams <cg_williams@ccmail.pnl.gov>
Subject: 24-Bit Color Card Recommendations (Q)

     Hi!

     I have another question pertaining to color cards; again for my
     colleague.  Here's his setup:

     Mac IIcx, System7
     8 meg RAM (soon to be 32)
     Daystar PowerCache 50 mHz/68882
     ComputerEyes video digitizing board (for use with the Canon RC-250)
     Apple 13" Monitor

     His PowerCache isn't installed yet, (still waiting for the hardware
     work to be done) but the digitizer is.  I would like recommendations
     on which 24 bit video card will work best with his setup.  I'm not
     even sure about the compatibility question, is it pertinent?  If not,
     I would be looking for the least expensive accelerated card.  He
     doesn't plan on upgrading his monitor, so we don't need to support
     anything larger than 640x480.

     Thanks again,

     Chuck

     Chuck Williams ====> CS intern
     Pacific Northwest Laboratories
     dgg428@pnlg.pnl.gov

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Date: 16 Apr 1993 14:52:19 U
From: "Kaufman Peter" <kaufman_peter@bcgmac.bcgny.com>
Subject: 32k colors on LCIII (A)

>I shrunk the screen via the monitor control panel as advised and did
>receive the 32k colors.  Now that I have them, what is the difference?  >Is
there a quicktime movie or some such where the difference between >256 and 32k
is stunningly obvious?

>How many colors can the human eye see anyhow (I know, billions and
>billions) with discerning resolution??

 -----------------------------
Just about _any_ color QuickTime movie looks markedly better with 32,000
colors.

As for how many colors, I can't remember the correct number off the top of my
head, (and who counted, anyways). But, I know the number is more than 32K and
less than 24-bit color.

Regards,
Peter Kaufman

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 09:18:29 GMT
From: pjakobse@estsa2.estec.esa.nl
Subject: 44mb Cartridges Speed on SyQuest 88c Drives (A)

In info-mac V11-079 Yorum Ney writes:

>In MacWeek of 1 MARCH 93, an ad by Optima (advertising their MO drive),
>claimed the following about SyQuest recent 88c drives:

>>"...Even SyQuest's new 88mb device, the one that
>>writes to 44mb cartridges,is not the answer. It behaves more like a floppy
>>disk than a hard drive. That's right, when writing to 44mb cartridge (...)
>>it performs 87% slower than its predecessor...".

>How true is this?? can anyone either working with a 88c (or ran 44mb
>cartridges
>on a 88c through SCSI Evaluator or similar) confirm/refute??

>Yoram  <yoram@ibmpcug.co.uk>

I recently bought an 88c with the new dual capability SQ555 mechanism from
LaCie, and I'm very happy with it. I have, however, noticed that it indeed
seems to be somewhat slower when working with 44mb cartridges.

Piqued by the above query, I ran Disktimer II v1.0 on the drive: (Both
cartridges formatted with Silverlining; machine: LC & Sys 7.1):

SQ555 mechanism                88 mb cartridge  44mb cartridge

100 24kb reads:                      22             44
100 24kb writes:                     25            335
Access time 80 seeks across 1mb:     13             12

All times in deciseconds (sic).

The performance with the 88mb cartridge is quite respectable and falls
between that of my built-in (Conner CP3040A) and external (Quantum PD120S)
hard drives. The read speed with the 44mb cartridge is also acceptable
(i.e. good enough to run large QT movies with - I've tried). The write
speed with the 44mb cartridge, however, appears to be more than 10 times
slower than with the 88mb cartridge (and this must be what said add is
harping about). On the other hand, we're hardly talking floppy speeds here
and I have yet to encounter a situation where the slower 44mb write speed
has seriously annoyed me or kept me from doing something.

Bottom Line: I'm perfectly satisfied with my (LaCie) SQ555 mechanism
drive. It works very well with 88mb cartridges and just fine with 44mb
cartridges too - but if you for some reason absolutely need high write
speed, then just stick with 88mb cartridges.

Standard disclaimer: I've nothing whatsoever to do with LaCie, SyQuest,
Optima, etc., etc.

Peter Jakobsen
pjakobse@estsa2.estec.esa.nl

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 04:44:37 PDT
From: "Peter Van Avermaet, DS-E @BRO, 856-7959  16-Apr-1993 1343"
<vanavermaet@player.enet.dec.com>
Subject: About a Modem (Racal Vadic VA212)(R)

When I started working, 12 years ago, the first thing I learned was how to use
the modem - that was a Racal Vadic VA212something - it was capable of
auto-answer, but not of auto-dial (because the Belgian PTT did not allow
auto-dial in those days). The speed was 1200 baud (one of the CCITT V.*
standards). It was slightly larger than a shoe-box.

If your modem is a close relative, I think you will have to connect it as a
fairly dumb modem. I do not know which CTB modem-tool could be used. If your
modem is auto-dial, then the question is how it dials (you would be very lucky
if it were Hayes-compatible - it might be possible to use the Hayes
modem-tool);
you may have to "dial" yourself, on the keyboard.

Peter Van Avermaet in Brussels

------------------------------

Date: 16 Apr 1993 17:25:31 +1200
From: "matt n." <clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: A comment about Info-Mac (R)

This thread was prompted by Jeff Kline's curiosity over why he sometimes
posts a question and gets no replies.

I know why *I* don't reply to a question: it's either because (a) I don't know
the answer (about 98% of the time), or (b) I believe that the question has so
well-known an answer that I assume lots of other people will probably answer
it. Reason (a) is only fair. A problem with reason (b) is that if *everyone*
thinks this way, no one will answer. I do not believe that this happens very
much with Info-Mac, though; usually if I don't answer a question I could have
answered, I see later that indeed someone else has answered it. Info-Mac folks
are generally helpful and generous with their time. If a question is
elementary, they generally remember that no matter how obvious an answer is
to *them*, they were once beginners. If it's hard, there's surprisingly often
someone who can answer helpfully. That's all one can ask.
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 09:29:14 PDT
From: mldickens@bbn.com (Michael L. Dickens)
Subject: Adding 2nd internal drive to IIsi; can it be done? (A)

> From: Jesse_M._Evans.El_Segundo@xerox.com
>
>       I have an old MacBottom external drive that I would like to move
>       inside
> my IIsi in addition to the drive already there.  Can this be done?  Does the
> IIsi's power supply have enough 'umph'?  Has anyone tried this and succeeded
> (or failed)?  Tell me your story...

I've added an iDS Wip (tm) to my IIsi, and now to my IIci.  It takes the
power directly out of the floppy port, or out of a normal outlet with a
special converted.  The drive is about 3 years old, but still works like a
charm.

Neither computer had any problems handling the extra power, as far as I
could tell.

	MLD

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 16:24:37 PDT
From: Brian.Gordon@Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Gordon)
Subject: After Conflict Checker DEMO, ...

I downloaded the Conflict Checker DEMO (Mac II, 7.1) and rebooted.  It did
some
diddling with load order, robooted again, and seemed happy -- no complaints,
etc.  Then some DAs stopped working -- BinHqx brings up its menu bar and quits
immediately (no message), KiwiEnvelope crashes with an illegal instruction
error as soon as you bring it up, etc.  Since the Conflict Checker was the
only
recent change, I dumped it and started over -- with the same problems.

Neither DiskFirstAid nor Norton Utilities have any complaints about either
disk.

Anyone else seen something similar?  Both of the know affected DAs are brought
in by Suitcase, so I will look for damage in that direction over the weekend,
but if anyone else has an idea, I'd be more than happy to hear it.

------------------------------

Date: 16 Apr 1993 15:07:34 U
From: "Kaufman Peter" <kaufman_peter@bcgmac.bcgny.com>
Subject: aliases (A)

>I am trying to run some programs from a fileserver and have set-up >aliases
to
the server for the individual programs.  However, there is >one minor
problem.
If the server is not on the desktop and someone >double-clicks on their file,
a
dialog box comes up saying the program >can not be found.
>Double-clicking on a file will not pick up the alias which points to the
>application on the fileserver.  Is there anyway to solve that or am I
>burdened by having to launch the application first and opening the file
>within the application?  Thanks.

Try re-building your desktop _after_ the server has mounted.

Regards,
Peter Kaufman

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:00 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk>
Subject: Apple UK in a mess again...

Alan Hewat writes in Digest #81 about the excellent deal Apple France
are offering on Centris 650s.  Contrast this with Apple UK's efforts;
I've just been speaking to a couple of dealers today who told me that:

(1)  LCIII upgrades - you just CAN'T get hold of them here although
Apple UK set a nominal price for them from day one.  But supplies are
nonexistent.

(2)  Apple CD-300s - again, these are practically unavailable.  One
dealer has had customers waiting since OCTOBER '92 (when the CD-300 was
released) for their orders.  They paid what was then the full price (about
350 pounds) only to see it fall to 250 pounds, but they haven't even got
their CD-ROM drives promptly as a minor consolation.  Indeed very few
CD-300 orders have actually been filled to date.

It's a ludicrous situation of course.  I don't know who's to blame; I don't
know if CD-300 supplies are equally volatile in North America, though I
believe it's easy to get hold of those LCIII upgrades over there.  But this
way of doing business really does Apple and Apple UK in particular no
credit at all.  No wonder the dealers I speak to frequently resort to the
use of the word "nightmare"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 09:22:12 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: AutoDoubler vs. Desktop [Q]

Hello all:
Latest scores from the above match (at least as it's played on my system):
AutoDoubler 0, Desktop 10.

Let me explain. I'm running AD on a Mac IIvi under System 7.1 with a
Quantum 240 partitioned 4 ways using Silverlining 5.33. AD is set to
autocompress two of the four partitions after 3 minutes (the other two are
for VM paging and static stuff). All is well and works smoothly as
advertised. Until one day:

I also do FoxBASE/Mac development and end up creating runtime applications
that have the same creator/type as FoxBASE; hence two applications with the
same creator/type. Launching an FB document will usually start the latest
created matching application; no problem here. The problem seems to happen
when I delete that application and relaunch an FB document. For some
reason, FB launches apparently without being properly decompressed. It
dies. The only solution is to rebuild the desktop. Anyone else seen this?

Here's another: Desktop Reset, the handy INIT that kills off scrambled
Desktop files during boot so they can be rebuilt when the Finder comes up
seems to confuse things somewhat. Same setup as above; I boot, holding down
command-option to invoke Desktop Reset. I ask for the desktop files on all
four partitions to be deleted. When the Finder starts, it rebuilds the
desktop on the first volume and thinks it's done. It rebuilds the second
volume on the next restart, the third on the next and so on. Any ideas?

I've had to rebuild desktops more often in the two months I've had AD than
since 1985 when I got my first 512. Is it me or Them?

Apologies for the rather long post; please reply by e-mail so no more
bandwidth is wasted. Thanks for any help or anecdotes; I'll summarize if it
seems warranted.

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

------------------------------

Date: 15 Apr 1993 21:30:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: STRASHEA@ZENO.MSCD.EDU
Subject: CENTRIS 650 - Any Problems?

My wife and her two staff members are upgrading their current MACS to the
Centris 650.  They are all heavy Quark users and are looking for a lot of
flexibility.  Has a bug report for the Centris 650 been posted?  Are there
any particular pieces of software that don't work well or don't work at all?
They will be moving up to System 7 from 6.0.8 for the first time...

Please post any replies to strashea@zeno.mscd.edu

Thank you!

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 11:04:21 -0700
From: tonyh@msc.cornell.edu (Tony Huang)
Subject: Check your facts, please!

>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 13:10:37 -0400
>From: Chris Smith <cbsmith@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
>Subject: LC III or Centris 610 for math related (esp SPSS)
>
>Basically, the call goes like this: anything that actually uses an FPU is
>faster even on a Colour Classic w/FPU than a Centris 610. However..... the
>speed difference between a 610 and an LC III is significant, as the '040
>chips have something like the clock doubler found in Intel's DX2 machines.
>Inside the CPU, the 610 is screaming away at 40MHz. This means, that anything
>that *doesn't* require FPU, the 610 is going blow the LC III away. I'm not
>familiar with SPSS, but basically, your deciding factor should be "Just how
>much *does* this program use the FPU??" A lot of programs *don't*, even
though
>they seem very "Math Oriented" (spreadsheets, for example, don't really use
>the FPU). If you *do* need an FPU..... boy I'd really be tempted to go with
>anything with a full '040 in it. Even a cheapie used Quadra 700, because
>having
>the FPU internal makes a big difference again with performance (and the 700's
>FPU is running at 50MHz like the rest of the chip....).

I don't normally respond to postings like this, but this one is so full of
factual errors... Nearly every statement is erroneous!

Here are the facts:

1) Unless the program REQUIRES the presence of an FPU (in which case the
program won't run on a C610 - assuming no software FPU emulator is
installed), the C610 is still generally faster than a Color Classic w/ FPU
running programs that USES the FPU.

2) The '040 chips, unlike the Intel DX2 chips, are NOT clock doublers
(notwithstanding Apple and Motorola's propaganda). Because of pipelining,
some instructions do EFFECTIVELY take fewer clock cycles to complete and
the '040 may be arguably better designed than the '486, but it's no clock
doubler.

3) C610 runs at 20MHz, not 40MHz, inside the CPU.

4) Spreadsheet programs (that I know) DO use the FPU if one is present.

5) Q700 may not be as expensive as it used to be, but it's no cheapie. The
Q700 is probably a great bargain if you can still find one. It's built for
speed and funtionality without much cost consideration (unlike the C650
which is designed to be a middle-of-line machine with a cheap case --
cheap-looking, too -- and without 24-bit color capability -- unless you
spend >$1000 for an accelerated 24-bit video board).

Tony Huang
tonyh@msc.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 08:46:25 -0600
From: bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Computer insurance (C)

Jerry Wilcox says
>...system for home several years ago, I turned first to my agent who
carefully
>pointed out that my policy specifically excluded "business equipment" from
>any coverage. He was quite candid with me and said that while the company
>would cover a Nintendo, or perhaps even something like a Commodore 64 as a
>"home computer," my Macintosh System (which cost > $10K back then) was
>clearly for "business" and would not be covered. He offered to write me a
>"business" policy, but then was very open about telling me to look first at
>the companies which specialized in insuring computers.

Just wanted to comment that I have State Farm Homeowner's insurance. They
cover computer equipment up to about $3000, and offer a rider for more
expensive things. This is the same type policy as for furs, guns, and coin
collections. Home computers (and other consumer electronics) are much more
common today than a few years ago, so calling any real computer "for
business" may have changed, but I would look closely at any renter's policy
to see what it actually says.

I have an LC with a Personal LaserWriter LS. Right now I'm still going with
the $3k limit, but I'm definitely on the edge for full replacement.
Bryan Walls                             My words are not NASA policy.
bwalls@marvin.msfc.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 13:29:46 EDT
From: adorfman@cs.tufts.edu (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: download formats (inc .image)

To Graham Berry, and anyone else who is new around here...

I believe that there is a file explaining all about download formats, in
info-mac/help.

.image files are produced by DiskCopy, which is available at ftp.apple.com,
in /public/utils/diskcopy-4-2.hqx. You'll need a machine with at least
900k of free ram if you are making 800k images, and 1500 free ram for 1400k
images.

Other formats are .sit (stuffit), .cpt (compact pro), .pit (packit), and .sea
(self extracting archive). The newest version of Stuffit can deal with all
of these types, as well as do binhex/debinhex. I think the newest version of
Stuffit is "Stuffit Lite". Older versions of Stuffit can not work with files
created by newer versions of stuffit.

Good Luck!!!

-Avram Dorfman (adorfman@cs.tufts.edu)

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 07:30:45 GMT
From: grantbow@netcom.com (Grant R. Bowman)
Subject: Floppy disk characteristics

	Since I heard about the different disks being offered by MEI Micro
now for IBM and Macintoshes, I was curious what the difference could be.
Thank you Timothy, Allan, and Richard for responding to my request for
information.
 -------------------
	It seems that yes, the Mac used variable speed motors for their
disk drives, and still do to retain backward compatiblity.  This
variation allowed increased storage capacity on 400k and 800k 3.5"
floppies, although at the cost of some speed reduction in comparison to
the IBM disks of similar sizes.
	I was really curious, so I actually tried it out to compare.  The
Mac disk formatted to 803,840 bytes minus the b-tree and extents
directory, for free space of 803,328 bytes (says MacTest Pro).  The
Macintosh uses allocation block of 512 bytes/block.  The IBM disk
formatted to 730,112 bytes capacity and free space (says the format
information).  DOS uses allocation block of 1024 bytes/block.
	My hunch was wrong about the HD floppies.  Considering the speed
disadvantage and the only marginal storage space increase, Apple decided
to format their disks in the same low level, constant speed method as the
IBM standard.  The format information of the IBM disks (File Allocation
Table) and the Macintosh (b-tree header and extents directory) is kept on
the inside tracks of most disk formats (even compact disc's).

	So with this information, it seems that the extra price MEI is
charging for high density Mac disks is unwarranted.  The variable speed
motors might even be expected to be put though more accurate tolerances
when compared to IBM drives.  Low Density disks may be a different story.

	One related question that I have had for awhile is:  Why do
Mac/IBM machines have a hard time formatting each other's used disks when
there are apparently no problems before trying to reformat?  The
difficulty for high density shouldn't exist assuming identical read
hardware and exact same drive speeds.  The low density case may be
different, since maybe the squashed/moved around data intervals could
make it difficult to read data, not the old data showing through the
offset tracks, maybe?  My observations are mostly with low density 3.5"
disks.  Does anyone else have any insight?
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------<
    Grant Bowman               Delta Sigma Phi, Technology Task Force

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Date: 16 Apr 1993 21:33:09 -0600 (CST)
From: "MRGATE::\"A1::MRPATTERS\""@UTMEM.UTMEM.EDU
Subject: Hard Drive Hero and Villain

From:   NAME: Dr. Mark Patters
	FUNC: Dentistry-Periodontology
	TEL: 6242                             <MRPATTERS AT A1 AT UTMEM>
To:     IN%"Info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu"@MRGATE


In August, 1991, I purchased a Quantum ProDrive 210S external from Hard Drives
International in Tempe, Arizona. HDI was a major advertiser in MacWeek and
MacUser back then, and their Powerdrive series was priced right. I chose the
Quantum over a Maxtor because the Quantum was advertised with a two year
warranty while the Maxtor was only 1 year.

A few weeks ago, I began having some trouble with the drive when SpeedDisk 2.0
(part of NUM) refused to optimize it even though NUM's Disk Doctor said the
drive was OK. To be safe, I back it up and reformatted it. To my amazement,
Disk Manager Mac 2.30 (included by HDI with the drive) refused to format the
drive because of too many bad blocks. I tried DiskMaker 1.6 and got the same
response, i.e. 81 unrecoverable bad blocks. Trusty receipt in hand, I called
HDI technical support and they said that it sounded like a head crash had
wiped
out a piece of the drive. The warranty, "1 year" they said unless I had
purchased the extended care contract (I hadn't). I told them that the drive
was
advertised by them as having a 2 year warranty. They said that was Quantum's
warranty, not theirs, so I called Quantum.

Quantum's 800 number proved almost impenetrable, but I finally got through.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:56:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dreaming <snort@eng.umd.edu>
Subject: Have you ever seen a skull on your monitor? (C)

While I don't use CA's software, the posted descriptions of the face
cursor in Cricket Graph evoke Edvard Munch's painting "The Scream"
very strongly.  I think the person who drew that cursor was just
feeling artistic that day.  :-)

(As an aside, I always thought that Macauley Caulkin's expression in
the "Home Alone" posters was supposed to be mimicking that painting also.)
--
snort@eng.umd.edu                                                 Dreaming
       there's a little bit of me in each electron on your phosphor

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Date: 16 Apr 93 10:09:00 CST
From: "JOHN S. CONRADER" <CONRADERJ@h8700a.boeing.com>
Subject: Help the Listserver. . .

Hi all,
  I read the message about the ricevm1 listserver being full all the time.
For me, the only easy way to access the archives, as well as the infomac
digests is through a listserver.  This has been a great service that is
provided by different people.  I am sure I am not the only one that accesses
programs and information in this way.  We should try to give a little back
to the generous people.  A short time ago, there was a "fund drive" to get
a new hard drive for the info-mac archives, why don't we do the same for
the rice listerver?  Tell me where to send my money - it is worth it.

Just a thought.

Reply direct - I can't subscribe to the list.
-John :)
conraderj@h8700a.boeing.com

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 08:51 PST
From: Charles G Williams <cg_williams@ccmail.pnl.gov>
Subject: Help with Canon Digital Camera (Q)

     Hi!

     One of my colleagues just purchased a Canon RC-250 camera for his
     IIcx.  He would like to take "pictures" of some random things and get
     a decent quality printout to his Laserwriter II, as well as a
     Tektronix Phazer II color printer.  We are equipped with
     Photoshop 2.5, and only have 8 bit color. (for a little while longer,
     then we will be going to 24 bit)

     Could someone who is experienced in this arena give me some pointers
     to optimize output?  So far we have been disappointed with the
     Laserwriter II's performance and are beginning to think the the camera
     is a bad investment.

     Thank YOU!

     Chuck Williams ====> CS intern
     Pacific Northwest Laboratories
     dgg428@pnlg.pnl.gov

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 21:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lewis Internet Gateway <lewis@nic.cerf.net>
Subject: Hex Editor

Does anyone out there in netland know of a good PD/Shareware hex editor
for the Mac?  I have a friend who is looking for one.  Please reply to
"jeff@lewis.edu" or "lewis@cerf.net".  Thanks...

Jeff Mealiffe
Network Admin - Lewis Jr. High
jeff@lewis.edu OR lewis@cerf.net

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 17:10 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: How to read files with cpt suffix

Dear Netters,
If I am using TurboGopher, how can I read files received with a .cpt suffix?
Is there an additional application I can get out of sumex/aim that bin/hex's
directly into a file that reads .cpt compacted files?
Thank you.

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 12:29:03 +0100
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: IIci Maximum RAM

According to the Macintosh Compatibility Chart of October 1992 currently
hanging on my wall (this came with a developer's package last year from Apple,
so I assume it's authoritive), the Mac IIci can have a maximum RAM of 32
MBytes.

I hope this clears things up...

Elliot Bennett
DLR, Cologne, Germany
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 00:45:51 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: IIci vs. LCIII or Palatino is not Palatino (A)

>The reason I saw wider spaces between text lines (and thus thought that 13"
>is not = 14" when it is) and found that the number of text lines on my
>IIci(7.0.1) was greater than on my LCIII(7.1) was (ta ta) that the
>Palatino12 on the IIci was different than the Palatino12 on the LCIII.  The
>printer printed out whatever Palatino I used (I was able to duplicate both
>behaviors on both machines).  As someone very wise suggested evidently the
>printer is taking the line spacing from the installed font (even though, to
>my knowledge, Palatino is in the printer's memory).

>I am unable to distinguish the fonts using GET INFO and would have no idea
>which is which without looking at a document.  The source of the difference
>may have originated many moons ago when I was looking at a bunch of fonts
>posted to info-mac that were supposed to be better than the System fonts (I
>can't remember what the set was called....Adobe something???).  I certainly
>cannot verify this since I cannot tell which is which.

Yes, the letter, word, and line spacing of a screen font *does* affect the
printer's output even if it is a built-in font. I find it surprising how
many people find this difficult to understand. Afterall, you *do* want a
WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) computer don't you? Also, you
generally have two choices for screen spacing, 1) Standard non-fractional
width spacing (everything is based on the 72 dpi screen), 2) fractional
widths where the spacing is based upon the printer's widths, sacrificing
screen readability but improving the look of the printed output. Page
layout programs are generally locked into fractional widths mode and word
processors generally let you choose via Page Setup.

Indeed, the Adobe screen fonts for the fonts that are built into most
PostScript printers have slightly different (i.e. better) spacing than the
Apple supplied fonts. It is unfortunate that Apple does not supply the
Adobe screen fonts with Macs, so we live in a world where the majority of
users have the standard, but poorer Apple screen fonts and users in the
know have the better Adobe screen fonts. Documents will change when they
move between two machines using the two different font sets. It's a drag,
but that's life. The only answer is to install the Adobe screen fonts on
every Mac you get your hands on. That's what I do (yes, I inform the users
of the pros and cons first).

The Adobe screen fonts can be found in:

info-mac/font/adobe-screen.hqx

P.S. Yup, I'm the one who posted them and made your life Hell. ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:19 CST
From: PAI@UWSTOUT.EDU
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #81

Are there any users Macintosh for textile, fabric and apparel
design out there. I just saw a DOS based system used at my school
and I am keen to have them use/try Macintosh.

Any advise?

Thank you
Ananth

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:35:42 -1000
From: phauptma@unlinfo.unl.edu (Phil Hauptman)
Subject: Installer script editor

Is there an free/shareware editor that will modify macintosh installer
scripts? If so where can it be found.


Thanks,

Phil

Phillip D. Hauptman                 Phone: 402-472-5520
Systems Manager
USDA-ARS
University of Nebraska
Room 108 Keim Hall
Lincoln, NE 68583

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 03:47:55 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Insurance & software...

I will start out with a good old traditional disclaimer: I reserve the
right to be wrong; I am no legal expert; this is opinion and not fact (?).

I have recently seen a question and resulting comments on insurance for
computers.  In general I don't know that much about the subject, other
than I have renter's insurance through State Farm that covers $10,000
in hardware AND software.  Recently, Chuck Martini
(cmartini@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil) said he had never seen a policy that
covers software.  I am not necessary going to contradict him (I guess
I already did though? ;-).  The way I see it is the point is totally
irrelevant.  If someone steals your disks, your house burns down, or
some other wild disaster happens to you software, you should be able
to get another set of disks from the software company.  You may have
to pay a small fee to cover the cost of shipping and the disks, but
you should not be out your software.  Why?  Well, according the whole
idea of software is that I buy the right to use the program, not the
program itself.  I own the disks the software is on and the manual that
came with the program; thus I would have to pay for new "copies" of those.
However, even if those items are lost, I still "own" the right to use
the software.  I haven't violted the licensing agreement by any of
this, so I should be able to get another copy of the software.

I welcome your comments (& flames :-).

Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
smaxwell@engin.umich.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:24:04 +0000
From: Graham Allsopp <G.Allsopp@Sheffield.ac.uk>
Subject: It's a daft old Word

This is driving me daft!

Does anyone have experience of reliably converting documents between Word
for Windows 2, MS-DOS Word 5 and Macintosh Word 5.1a (mainly going from PC
to Mac) and retaining their formatting? We have been doing this for some
time, never paying attention to layout. We now need to preserve the PC
layout on the Mac, and get very inconsistent results. We also have troubles
with diagrams drawn in WfW 2 - we can't edit or print them properly from a
Mac.

We've got all the appropriate converters installed (EPS-TIFF-PCT; Windows
Metafile Converter; Word for MS-DOS 5.x; Word for Windows 2), we've read
the manuals, read the Conversion Information document, tried various file
formats, but still can't get it right every time. Has anyone else managed,
or is this just another of those idiosyncrasies of Uncle Bill's vast
empire?

Graham Allsopp, Cartographic Unit, Department of Geography, University of
Sheffield, UK

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 00:17:36 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: LC III or Centris 610 for math related... (R)

In digest <9304160016.AA22997@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> Chris Smith writes:

>Basically, the call goes like this: anything that actually uses an FPU is
>faster even on a Colour Classic w/FPU than a Centris 610.

I don't think it helps potential purchasers a whole lot to hear claims
like this unless there are some numbers to back you up. If you can prove
this claim with actual timed results of real software running real world
problems, pleeeease post your results. A lot of people seem to be really
worried about the FPU issue. MacWeek printed some timing results that
showed no significant improvement in performance by having an FPU for
several popular programs, such as PhotoShop, Excel, PageMaker, etc. If you
know of specific programs that really do perform much better with an FPU,
I'm sure many readers would like to see just how big a difference it
makes.

The only program I have that shows a huge difference is a little demo that
was included with the rollout of the original Mac II. Since it was a demo
designed to show off the power of the FPU and nothing more, it doesn't
count for much.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 11:04:10 +0100
From: karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: localtalk vs. ethertalk

We were having a discussion about connectivity the other day, and how
Europe lags behind the States.  I stated most big U.S. companies today
would be using ethernet to directly link their Macs together (we have
several hundreds of Macs linked by slow localtalk in several zones with an
ethernet backbone).
I was wondering which percentage of networked Macs are still connected by
localtalk and which percentage uses ethertalk ? I'm especially interested
if such statistics exist for big companies.
 ----------
Karl Pottie
Macintosh Consultant for the University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium

karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:00 PDT
From: Philip Harriman
<EGS2G1B%UCLAMVS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Mac ASCII to Latin1?

How can I convert Mac extended-ASCII data to the Latin1 character set?

Send me mail; I'll summarize for the net.

Thanks,

Phil

------------------------------

Date: 16 Apr 93 14:03 GMT
From: PIONEERSFTWR@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Pioneer Softwr Inc,S Conger,PRT)
Subject: MiniCAD+4 .vs. PowerDraw


Hi,

I am looking into purchasing a CAD package for Mechanical Engineering Design.
I have narrowed the canidates down to PowerDraw and MiniCAD+4.  I would like
anyone who has had any kind of experience with either of these products to let
me know what you think.  Any comments would be very helpful.  Please mail
directly to me at

PioneerSftwr@applelink.apple.com

Thanks in advance,
Susan Conger
Macintosh Development
Pioneer Software, Inc.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 20:51:22 GMT
From: gweil@ibeam.ht.intel.com (Garry Weil)
Subject: Need Monitor Recommendation

I have finally decided to update my SE :-)).
I am planning on buying a Centris 610-8/230 CD.
Now, what monitor should I get? Here are a few
guidelines:
	My wife uses PageMaker occasionally, I use Excel sometimes
	and I do alot of Telecommuting from home to work. We both
	do Word processing.

I have looked at the Radius Color Pivot. This can be bought for
under $1000. I have heard good things about the E-Machines T-16,
the older model not the new T-16 II. How about the Super Mac 17T?
These both can be had for a little over $1000. Any others??

Garry

------------------------------

Date: Fri 16 Apr 93 03:54:03-EST
From: STK1738@VAX003.STOCKTON.EDU
Subject: Please Help!

Hello there.
	I am a newbie to internet and I am having some difficulty in
receiving the .hqx files that are in these file areas.  I have a Mac, on which
I am using Z-TERM.  To transfer the files, I do this:
*ascii
200 Type set to A.
*get trashchute2.0.cpt.hqx
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for trashchute2.0.cpt.hqx (5824
bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
Local: [STK1738]TRASHCHUTE2.0$5NCPT$5NHQX;  Remote: trashchute2.0.cpt.hqx
5915 bytes transfered in 0.62 seconds (9.32 Kbytes/second)

Then from my local DEC/VAX cluster I do this:
VAX/VMS: xmodem
 XMODEM Version 5.1 on VAX VMS
$_XMODEM Command: s trashchute2.0$5ncpt$5nhqx;1
 Sending File: TRASHCHUTE2.0$5NCPT$5NHQX;1
 Checksum Tr
### Receive (x) ZRcv 4/16/93: 11648 bytes, 1:43 elapsed, 112 cps, 93%

Now, I use Compact Pro v. 1.32 to convert the .hqx file FROM BINHEX 4.0 and
Compact Pro indicates to me that it cannot read the .hqx file and that it is
either damaged or it is of a format that the version of Compact Pro cannot
recognize. I forgot to add that when I transfer from my DEC/VAX cluster I
use TEXT conversion so that the type of file is consistent..

Am I doing something wrong in this process?  Any commentary would be
greatly apprecated...
							Michael Brannigan
						 STK1738@VAX003.STOCKTON.EDU
]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 14:18:52 EDT
From: sridar@nil.mni.mcgill.ca (Sridar Narayanan)
Subject: Plotting and Graphing Software for Windows/Mac (A)

Hi,

Your Windows user is in luck!  (Well, as lucky as a Windows user can be.)
DeltaGraph Pro is now available for Windows, at the special introductory
price of  $89 U.S, direct from DeltaPoint Software.  The SRP is $599,
indicating a street price around $350, so this is one sweet deal.

Oh, by the way, this offer applies to the Mac version as well.  Got
mine this week.  :-)

KGraph is a great product, but there hasn't been a significant upgrade for
about 3 years.  DeltaGraph seems to have all the features that I've been
waiting for Synergy to put into KaleidaGraph, so I "upgraded".

An interesting note:  the full Mac installation of DGP takes up about
5 Meg of disk space.  A lot, you say?  The full Windows installation
takes up 22 Meg!  The programs are functionally identical.  So much
for Windows.


Sridar Narayanan                         sridar@nil.mni.mcgill.ca
NeuroImaging Lab
Montreal Neurological Institute

------------------------------

Date: FRI, 16 APR 1993 11:59 JST
From: KAZUYUKI KONKO (TOKYO INTERNATIONAL UNIV.)
<KONKO%JPNTIU01.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Q:Super Laser Spool

Hello

 I have some quiestion about 'Super Laser Spool'. I want to your
help.

1. Dose anyone know 'Fifth Generation Systems' FAX number or
Internet address ?

2. What is newest version  'Super Laser Spool' ?
2-1. Can newest version running under system6.xx ?

Thanks to everyone who responded.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 17:43 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk>
Subject: QuickTime shareware wishlist

As a sort of follow-up to my System 7 wishlist (for which I had several
e-mail responses; thanks) I thought I'd appeal to any interested shareware
programmers out there to come up with a viable application for editing
QuickTime movies.

I can't think of a more obvious gap in the shareware arena than the lack of
utilities for dealing with movie files.  Sure, there are a few cute movie
players around, but what we really need is something which allows you to
reprocess movies in the same way as we've become accustomed to altering
PICTs, JPEGs and GIFs.  I'm not asking for the power of Adobe Premiere (nor
the price range!) but hopefully as hard disks and RAM and CPU speed begin
to swell, there'll be more and more uploads of QuickTime movies which we
users will want to alter to suit our own purposes.  For example, it's often
desirable to reduce the file size of a movie by recompressing, changing the
sound and frame settings and so on.

My idea of a suitable feature set for a movie editor isn't that vast - I'm
not asking for special effects, for example.  But considering that the kind
of functionality which image viewers provide for pictures seems vast
compared to what any current movie players do with movies, I think we've
got a long way to go.  Anyway, here's what I'd like to see in such a
program:

(1)  Recompilation of movies using different compressors and/or frame rates
and sizes.  The editor should tell you what the original frame rate and
compressor were (even commercial packages don't tell you, I think, which is
weird).

(2)  Resampling of the soundtrack at lower rates.  Ability to change the
volume uniformly and to fade sound in and out.

(3)  Ability to interleave sound (ie insert the sound data at periodic
intervals in the movie file to improve playability, rather than have all
the sound sitting at one end as many movies currently do)

(4)  Slight alterations to the synchronisation of sound and video (the
number of movies I've seen where the sound seems a quarter of a second
ahead or behind the picture).  Ideally, it should be possible to resave the
movie with the entire soundtrack shifted by a fraction of a second relative
to the video WITHOUT having to recompress, but I don't know if this is
allowed.

(5)  Ability to compress movies in the background (ever waited two hours
for Adobe Premiere to finish a one-minute Compact Video clip on a Quadra?).
The app should be quite willing to yield to foreground tasks, not just
relinquish a moment of CPU time every 5 seconds.

(6)  Extraction of sound from a movie, saving it as a sound or AIFF file.
Also the ability to save a movie without the sound and without recompressing
(again, don't know if this is possible).


I've rambled on - apologies.  But I do think the first shareware program
into the breach could well clean up here (insofar as you can ever clean up
with shareware!).  I know the delay in publishing the QuickTime volume of
Inside Macintosh has stopped a lot of potential work in this area, which
must be really frustrating, but I hope somebody will come up with the goods
(and can I beta-test? :-) )

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 10:22:03 EDT
From: Prof GWK Moore <moore@rainbow.physics.utoronto.ca>
Subject: Radius video board and NEC monitors

I am thinking about getting a Radius 8XJ (or 24X) video
board to drive a NEC 5FG monitor.  As I understand it, the
Radius boards when connected up to Radius monitors  allow
one to switch resolution on the fly (i.e. without booting).
Does anyone know if the same will occur with a NEC monitor.
Thanks
Kent
Professor G.W.K. Moore          Department of Physics
60 St. George Street            University of Toronto
Toronto,Ontario,Canada          M5S 1A7
Phone: 416-978-4686             Fax:416-978-8905
email:moore@rainbow.physics.utoronto.ca

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 22:50:12 -0500
From: lt10@cornell.edu (Li-Hsiang Tu)
Subject: Random StartupScreen (Q)

Is there another extension or cdev that allows me to randomly (or in order)
display pictures in a folder as StartupSreen?

Thanks

Tim

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 08:38:18 -0600
From: lankton%zodiac.colorado.edu@spot.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Resource Detective Needed (A)

>Does anyone know of a utility that will scan the resource fork of an
>application an list all text items that appear in dialog boxes, menu items
>etc. etc.

MPW (Macintosh Programmers Workshop) includes a utility called "DeRez",
which will dump any or all resources from a file out in human-readable
form. The alter ego of "DeRez" is called "Rez", which is a general-purpose
resource compiler. The combination of these two tools will let you
dump (for instance) all the DITLs from all the dialog boxes, modify the
included text with a text editor, and re-compile the whole thing back into
working form. Yet another reason to keep MPW around...

Mark Lankton, Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics
lankton@orion.colorado.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 21:04:06 -0800
From: pantaki@prodigy.bc.ca (Paul Antaki)
Subject: Starting up from external drive

I'm having a problem with a IIcx that won't start up from its external hard
drive. It has an internal 40 and an external Liberty 400. Both drivers have
valid system folders, the SCSI IDs are set right, the chain is properly
terminated, and I have selected the external drive from the Startup Disk
Control Panel.

Instead, the internal drive is the startup drive and the external only gets
mounted. The only way to startup off the external is to unbless the
internal's system folder.

I have tried everything and I am still stumped by this problem. Any help at
all would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
pantaki@prodigy.bc.ca

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 01:00:47 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Symbol Bold (A)

In comp.sys.mac.digest RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk writes:

>It turns out that there really isn't a Postscript form of Symbol Bold (at
>least Apple don't supply it), but the laserwriter can usually simulate the
>bold form of a unstyled font by just increasing the line widths.  But there
>is a further complication with Symbol; Apple have somehow disabled this
>simulation feature in the SCREEN font which they've supplied.  To get Symbol
>in bold from a laserwriter, you need to use the Adobe screen version of
>Symbol (available in /font here at Sumex).

>My question for the ResEdit/Fontographer wizards out there is, what is it
>about the screen font that can enable or disable the PostScript simulation
>of a styled font (such as bold or italic)?  I've compared the Adobe and
>Apple versions of Symbol and there seem to be quite a few differences in the
>FONDs, so it may not be localised to a few entries.  But if it is, then it
>would probably be easier to just edit those entries rather than swap the
>screen fonts, especially as the kerning on the Adobe fonts is different!

Yes, there is a little ResEdit hack that enables the bold and italic
simulation. In fact, the Adobe screen fonts for Symbol and Zapf Chancery
that I posted had this feature disabled as well. I did the hack, but have
since forgotten what the steps are. I have a note on it somewhere, but not
handy I'm afraid. Anyhow, I advocate switching to the Adobe screen fonts
anyhow. Yes, some of the spacing is different, but Adobe knows what they
are doing (i.e. they have it right, Apple doesn't).

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 11:07:34 +0100
From: holst@diku.dk (Bo Holst-Christensen)
Subject: Upgraders from Deneba

I ran into a problem with Coach Pro 4.0 the other day, and needed an
upgrade from Deneba to 4.01.
Deneba has uploaded upgraders for their software on AppleLink and
CompuServe, but not on the the internet.
As others may also be interested in getting upgraders for Deneba software
on the internet, I have forwarded a message from Carmine Delligatti at
Deneba about this:

 -----------Forwarded message follows------------
>Attn: Bo Holst-Christensen
>SentBy: Carmine Delligatti
>
>        Reply to:   RE>Re3: Coach Pro 4.0 - DiskTo
>Deneba has not sent any of the previous Canvas updaters to anyone on Internet
>for the purpose of posting on a server.  Previous updaters were obviously
>downloaded from one of our bulletin board libraries and uploaded to an
>Internet server by a user's own initiative.  This option remains open.  I
>would not be opposed to sending the software on disk to an official Internet
>representative (preferably in the US) for the express purpose of posting on a
>public server.  But as of today, I have not been approuched by anyone with
>this request.  Any volunteers?
>
>Best regards,
>
>Carmine Delligatti
>Customer Support Manager
>Deneba Software
 -----------End of forwarded message-------------

   Bo Holst-Christensen
   holst@diku.dk      dikubhc1@uts.uni-c.dk      FAX: +45 53 640 321

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 00:25:42 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: V [RES] Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines (R)

>>>Can anyone let me know what the most effective way of upgrading
>>>LCs so that they run faster is? [Astonishing syntax, isn't it?]
>>>It seems to take the LCI and LCII forever to do anything. I'm
>>>interested in processor/accelerator as well as memory solutions.

>>For my money, The Apple LC/LCIII upgrade seems to be the best buy.  For
>>$599, my local Apple dealer will take my hard drive out of my LC and put
>>it into a brand-new LCIII.  I get virtually a whole new machine.

>This is different from my understanding... If I were to do this to my LC
>all I would upgrade is the  board, I would still have the same floppy drive/
>video capabilities (ie no support of the 16" monitor)....  ANy insight into
>this would be appreciated.

It would make sense that the upgrade is a motherboard swap, but since
everything is on the motherboard, you should get all the video capability
of any other LCIII. The parts that would be re-used would be the case,
power supply, floppy drive, and hard drive. Your extra cost would be RAM,
because you can't use your old RAM from an LC or LCII in an LCIII.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 10:08:43 -0400
From: "Steve Marsh"  <marsh2@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Vertical Centris 610

In Info-mac 11-081, Eric Lorenzo writes:

 >Will a Centris 610 with internal HD and CD-ROM work if I have it
 >in a vertical position?  I was told that I must format the HD in this
 >position, but will the CD-ROM be effected in any fashion?

I've found that I get the same results if I stand vertically on my
head while formatting the HD, and the CD-ROM remains unaffected.
Haven't tried a horizontal position yet! :)

- Steve Marsh  "marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 01:52:43 -0400
From: maynard@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: Weird OzTeX behavior...

Hello people. I've been using OzTex for years now (literally) but a few
weeks ago started to notice strange things.

Occasionally I'll TeX a file (using LaTex or AMS-LaTeX not that I think
that's relevant) and get a strange dvi file. Maybe all the 't's in the
dvi file will have become -'s. Or all the paragraphs will each be one
(very long) line off the edge of the page. The point is, it's always
very "localized damage" one thing wrong, but the file is correct is all
other aspects.

This behavior is not reproducible---when I TeX the same file again, I
might get a different strangeness, or a dvi file that is fine.
The damage is in the dvi file because I'v looked at the dvi file on
other platforms.
I have tried tracking things to an INIT, but switching some of them off
or on does not seem to change things---since the behavior is not
reproducible, this doesn't seem a fruitful route.
I have given OzTeX lotsa memory (about 1.5MB) and also ramped up all
it's user-settable parameters (I needed to do so to run AMS-LaTeX).

I have an SE/30, color screen, no VM, 20MB RAM, Apple 32 bit enabler,
system 7.1, generally standard INITs like Now Utils, Norton FileSaver
and such, OzTeX 1.4.3.
I can't think of anything that correlates with this strange behavior
starting---maybe 7.1 or maybe installing the 32 bit enabler?

Anyone else seen this? Know what to make of it?

Maynard Handley

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:04:48 -0600
From: ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu (Eric Hoffmann)
Subject: where is Ehman Engineering?

Debra Branscum, columnist for MacWorld, wrote a story about the rise and
fall of Ehman Engineering many issues ago. In that column she mentioned
that while Ehman Engineering was no more, Mike Ehman had moved on to a new
company that was supposedly still providing support to Ehman customers. Two
distressed users called me today out of the blue: one needs to have her
Ehman monitor repaired, the other has problems with his Ehman removable
drive. If anyone knows of the phone number and/or address of the company
Ms. Branscum discussed, could they please mail it to me? I will add it to
the vendors listing which we maintain.

Thank You.

Eric Hoffmann -- ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu

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Date: 17 Apr 1993 04:54:46 GMT
From: hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Subject: Where to get 6.08L (Q)

I'm looking for System 6.08L for my Powerbook 100. I understand that it
was never released in this country. Any tips on how to get hold of it
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steven

	Steven Hodas                        206.285.5734
   University of Washington              hhll@u.washington.edu

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